Having given a, a very broad background about the events around the flag raising, let me talk more about the image and the photograph itself. Some commentators have chosen to raise a controversial note about the flag raising. Was it a staged photograph? Was it the first flag raising? Was it at the completion of the battle. Well as we're going to talk you through. Different opinions will be put at that point in time. We focus very much on Joe Rosenthal's image. It was a Pulitzer Prize winning image. And we're going to come back to that a little bit later in the course. That is in fact the second flag raising at Mt Suribachi and the time he was working for Associate Press, and was therefore covering this for US media at the time. We, we actually have a number of different images of the raising of old glory the US flag on Mt Suribachi. Let me just very briefly talk you through this once of which I've, I've already shown you very briefly. Firstly we have Louis Lowry. He was present at the first flag raising. He was working for I think, Leatherneck Magazine, a service magazine at the time. You have Bob Campbell, who's a, described as a combat photographer. Who was their for both the first and the second raising. And then finally we have Sergeant Bill Genaust who was a cine photographer. Who also ascended Mount Suribachi. And was taking film at the same time that Joe Rosenthal shot his famous image. And interestingly, because of the position of the cine camera and Rosenthal's camera it is possible to just about get a stereoscopic view of the flag raising. In the case of Rosenthal, it is a standard still camera. But with the cine film being continuous at least one researchers have tried to marry up the two images. So, you have the slight offset, and that gives you I think, the power perspective of a stereo image accordingly. So, first thing off. The world knows, the image at Mt Suribachi in 1945. We have a series of possible images that might have made an impact, and it's happen chance to a certain degree. That the one that was widely used, was the one selected. Now, this is the image it's self. In the 21st century, iconic can be overused a super, a superlative I think in this instance, we can genuinely describe this image as iconic. I think there's one reference I picked up from a marine colonel at the time who said, you know, that marines will last a thousand years, I digress, will last 500 years from the basis of the the momentum carried by this image in the public's mind. Now, there are six flag raises. I, I've listed them out here. There are five in the foreground and there is one man in the back, whose hand you can just see in the distance. And from a technical point of view, this is set the shot with an older style manual camera. The image is one 400th of a second of exposure sorry exposure, and has an aperture of somewhere between F8 and F11. So, it is a frozen moment in time. And I think it's a very important consideration, to some of the things that we've said earlier in the course. About where we actually find an image. What happened was before, what happened after. In, in this case we're trying to deconstruct why this is an image. Many have and I will put my paltry attempt in as well. About why it is so important. But I tend to think of this as a work in progress, and we'll come back to the idea a little bit later. [BLANK_AUDIO]