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we need to realize that those,
those phases of disaster, not
only have different dynamics but
there're different players.
and you know, as I've told countless public
safety people and civilians, you know, if your
plan, if your disaster plan is to wait for
the FEMA helicopters to come and get you, you're
not going to survi, it's not going to go well.
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>> You know, so you have to, you know, it starts with individual responsibility.
>> Mm-hm.
>> and then you know, family, neighborhood local
community, state, and then federal government as a supplement.
and I think that people have, have assumed and
you know, I'm not, you know, saying anything good
or bad about FEMA, but people have assumed that,
the federal government is going to take care of me.
And really, disaster preparedness starts at home.
>> And I think we, you know,
that was the big message back in the civil defense days.
and it's, it still holds today.
>> But I think we've seen that in
many disasters, that people are, have like an entitlement.
They think it's going to happen.
But they don't understand that there's a delay.
And in some of the hurricanes that we've all responded to and worked with,
the many organizations that, that are available, but they have to be invited in.
The, the theme of the DMAT, the I'm
trying to think of all, the Red Cross, the Salvation Army, the, the Baptists, the.
There's tons of organizations.
But, first of all, they need to be invited, and second of
all, you need to have arrangements for where they're going to go and.
>> Right.
>> And, we've gone to many a disaster and it's like, where're we staying?
Well, we don't know.
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>> And, I'm prepared to sleep on the floor.
>> Yeah.
>> Right.
>> But there's, there's that wave, but the problem
is, is the wave takes time to get there.
>> Yeah.
>> And, you know, there were people that, you know, that
were, you know, and, and, you know, Facebook is a great
thing to, to get the word out about disaster stuff, and
and, somebody posted on there, I want to go help, you know.
How can I do that?
And I replied back, well the time to think about that was a
couple of months ago so that you could get the training, get affiliated,
learn disaster dynamics and everything else.
And she says, well, I never even thought of that.
we saw that in September, after September 11.
The number of people, and this is important for health care people.
The I
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want to go help, I need to go help.
And yes, they had a license, and yes they
had some clinical experience, but they didn't have disaster experience.
>> Right.
>> It's a completely >> And it's totally different.
>> Completely different dynamic. Completely different dynamic.
>> And then you get into the coverage.
You just don't go to a disaster like they had
at at the Oklahoma City bombing where Healthcare workers ran into
that area and landed up getting, either getting killed or injured,
and that's the worst thing you could do in a disaster.
Is go over there and try to help when, and
be untrained and unequipped, and we see that all the time.
And, whether it's sending food or trying to you know, step in.
Like Rob's saying, you, you need to think of if, if you're a
nurse and you want to to help in a disaster, join a DMAT team.
Or join the, the local medical response team.
>> Reserve Corps.
>> Which we have.
>>Reserve Corps. >>The Reserve Corps.
>>Right.
>>That's what I was looking for. Very good
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>> and, and it is amazing, there are those organizations.
And that's where I think is, if nothing
else we send the message that there are many
organizations that need help, they need players, they need,
they need EMTs, paramedics,
nurses, doctors, anesthesiologists, physicians, pharmacists.
You name it, we need everything.
because, the example is, when, when some of the
organizations like a DMATcome, they bring a whole hospital.
Well, they have to have
a whole hospital. They need an x-ray technician.
And sometimes I don't think they, they.
Some people don't feel that they could do what's of value.
>> Right.
>> You're a laborer, we could use you.
You know?
>> You know and, and we see this in large scale disasters and in
Haiti also, where people just showed up and said, you know, I'm here to help.
>> Right.
>> You have to provide me food, clothing, shelter, medical supplies.
No?
>> You become
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offices. Yeah.
>> Yeah.
And you know, you know, I caught people going
through a stash of MREs and said who are you?
Oh, you know, we're from such and such an organization.
Oh, that's nice. What are you doing here?
Oh, we're here to help you.
Oh, now, there's a process for you to go through that.
So, you run it in, in you know, this, we kind of got away from ICS, didn't we?
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Going back, going back to ICS, >> No, we'll get back, we'll get back.
>> You know, you know, we talk about accountability, we talk about
freelancing, and we talk about affiliated
spontaneous volunteers and also donations management.
>> So freelancing, hey I'm going to do what I want.
You know I'm going to go.
>> You can't do that.
>> You can't freelance. You gotta be accountable.
You know the whole, whole idea that
behind disaster management is meeting unmet needs.
>> Right. >> Right, so if I'm a non profit.
He's an
non profit.
Hey lets get together and figure out how to do this best.
>> All right, so that we're not competing with one another.
And, on the non-profit side, we're not wasting our donors' money.
>> Right.
>> Right.
>> So then we look at affiliated and spontaneous volunteers.