I have just one more question for you before we wrap this up, if you don't mind, of course. And I asked everyone in this series because we're all radical scholars and activists. But what do you establish as solutions regarding our perpetual fight to de-colonize our societies? >> Yeah to me, the solution is trying to build better relationships with one another, [LAUGH] Healing ourselves from, like you mentioned, these are kind of ways in which we've been assimilated into monolithic ideas of how we should be versus how we actually are. Allowing ourselves to live in our full complexity sometimes are full contradictions, allowing ourselves to be very imperfect, yet having lots of compassion and love and forgiveness for one another. I feel like we're all working on shedding these former selves and as we are in that process, we have to really build sense of mutuality. How might we work with others to create something new? And I think that's where we're going to create a new world is by doing that work, that everyday work on the ground with the people in our personal lives, with people in our work lives and modeling that it's a way of even modeling power. Sometimes I think people have made a lot of very valid critiques of the current administration. I mean, it's the most bizarre [LAUGH] Administration I think we've seen in our lifetimes at least. But to me it's such a perfect reflection of almost the archetype of like toxic masculinity and toxic power. And it's forcing us to just see how much we revere and fetishize that kind of power. And when we do that, we are also then forced to go, well, what kinds of power are actually going to function and help us move forward in a productive way? Right? How might we rethink power is equitable? How might we rethink power as compassionate, as giving, as loving, right? As opposed to just cruel, greedy, heartless, right? And so shifting our definitions and our models of power, I think they're going to take us there. >> Yeah, wow, I really, I really, really like that, we've talked so much, I mean, and this is collectively globally about the power structures, particularly over the last year. And the last 4 years in this country are really getting a view of what has been building in a society such as this over the last 400 plus years and the culmination of what that sort of power structure can do to us. And I hope it has woke many more people up to the possibilities of what sort of lives we actually can live and maybe they're not going to happen right now in these next couple of generations, but it is still possible for these things to happen. But as you've mentioned many, many times during this talk is the fact that it has to start internally with ourselves and really start to reconcile with our pains and also with our passions as well. And while, very, very powerful talk and always welcome, always appreciative. Any parting words before we end this. >> Just thanks for doing this. >> I'm really looking forward to seeing how this comes together and I think it's wonderful to put multiple voices. >> Yeah. And that's really the mosaic, that will take us into a better world as well, right? Hearing we all have something to contribute to our our collective future. >> Absolutely, absolutely. >> Yeah. >> Well, thank you so much, can't wait to get the riff with you again in the very, very near future and I appreciate you and try to have a pleasant rest of your break. And there's always time for us to get back to work, so. >> Yeah, thank you Sean, take care. >> Take care.